The BBC: Official Voice of Ecofascism

Climate change now represents so urgent a threat to mankind that the only way to deal with it is by suspending democracy. (Hat tip: DR at Bishop Hill)

When James Lovelock makes this kind of terrifying argument in books or newspaper interviews at least one can reasonably dismiss it as the potty burblings of an otherwise amiable and harmless old man.

When the BBC does it, however, I’d suggest the time has come to start tooling up and heading for the hills. Have a listen to this recent radio broadcast by the BBC’s “Ethical Man” Justin Rowlatt and tell me whether you find it as scary as I do.

It purports to be a balanced examination of Lovelock’s controversial remarks in a Guardian interview:

I have a feeling that climate change may be an issue as severe as a war. It may be necessary to put democracy on hold for a while.

But it’s clear right from the beginning what the documentary’s line is: What do we want? Ecofascism. When do we want it? Now!

Here’s Rowlatt’s opening:

Climate change is a divisive issue. I believe that it is a
real threat and needs to be tackled. I know many people disagree. But
whatever you believe you should be concerned about how our society
responds to the issue because there is a growing view that mitigating
climate change means we have to change our view of democracy.

In support of this dubious thesis (the fact that you “believe”, Justin Rowlatt, is surely a glorious irrelevance), Rowlatt wheels on an array of extreme greens to argue what he’d no doubt dearly love to say himself but can’t because of those tricky BBC rules on impartiality.

Somebody called Halina Ward of the Foundation For Democracy And Sustainable Development says:

We don’t have to be driven by what 50% plus 1 of the
population wants to say that we represent a majority view.

Somebody called Michael Jacobs, formerly Gordon Brown’s advisor on Climate Change, says:

I don’t think it’s right to call something anti-democratic if it
has the consent of the public even if you couldn’t say that they were
actively in favour of it.

And here’s Rowlatt’s exchange with somebody called Mayer Hillman, senior fellow emeritus of the Left-leaning Policy Studies institute:

HILLMAN: The planet has a finite capacity to absorb the further
burning of fossil fuels and still leave a safe climate for the future, and
there’s every indication that we – and I mean the public in this country
and elsewhere – are not prepared to make the changes necessary to
achieve that. On the other hand democracy requires that those changes
cannot be imposed on the public if they are unwilling to accept the
implications of that, which is living within the planet’s capacity to
absorb further greenhouse gas emissions.

ROWLATT: So what are you saying – we suspend democracy?

HILLMAN: I think in the same way that I understand James Lovelock
has suggested that, I fear I have to share his view on that. There’s no
way that the public are going to willingly say “I will forego flying”.
The fact is that we’ve got to live on such a low use of fossil fuels for
our daily activities. Therefore it’s got to be required of them and if they
don’t go along with it, then we are – I fear – heading for absolute
disaster. We are on a trajectory towards rendering the planet steadily

ROWLATT: Some people would say, Mayer, that you sound like an
eco fascist.

HILLMAN: Well I have had that term applied to me. I don’t mind these
sticks and stones. I think it’s irrelevant how I sound. I’m just trying to
talk commonsense.

No fewer than six out of the seven expert witnesses called by Rowlatt are ardent environmentalists. And that’s not counting the parti pris presenter, Rowlatt himself.

Someone from the Institute of Economic Affairs is wheeled on mildly and politely to put the case for democracy and economic commonsense. But then it’s back to the eco-fascists for the final word.

Says Hillman:

We have an obligation to look after the interests of future
generations because they’re going to have to live in a world which is in
a deteriorating condition. And we already, some of us, can see the lives
that our children and grandchildren are going to have to live within, and
it is pretty horrific and it is because we’re not prepared to make the
changes necessary. Democracy allows people the freedom not to be
obliged to do things that we know we must do, so how can one possibly
say yes but the principle of democracy must prevail over and above
protection of the global environment from excessive burning of fossil
fuels? Given the choice, I would sadly – very, very sadly – say that the
condition of the planet in the future for future generations is more
important than the retention of democratic principles.

Tell you what I find so bothersome about this whole noisome documentary: it’s that Rowlatt – and he’s by no means atypical of the BBC on this score – is quite utterly incapable of appreciating what a poisonous doctrine he is tacitly endorsing.

There is nothing normal, balanced or reasonable about a programme – made at licence payers’ expense by Britain’s state broadcaster – to argue the case for replacing democracy with fascist tyranny. Let alone to present it in such a grotesquely biased way.

It’s no better than picking up on a remark by some fringe racist that “black people should be sent back to where they came from” and then inviting a panel including Nick Griffin and five other Neo-Nazis, plus a token Yasmin Alibhai Brown, to discuss whether this argument makes sense.

As the “science” in support of AGW collapses it is of course inevitable that the methods used by the Alarmists to defend their crumbling citadel will grow ever more desperate and underhand. But for the BBC to play so active a role in this dirty propaganda war is quite inexcusable.

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26 thoughts on “The BBC: Official Voice of Ecofascism”

  1. yaosxx says:2nd June 2010 at 8:51 amAfter all the chaos at the DT and its appalling Word Press, I think we should all come here and post – at least I assume you can keep an eye on who’s posting and so no multiple posters here. Not entirely sure what Damian has planned but how woeful of him to have let things get this bad.
  2. Tygereye says:2nd June 2010 at 11:12 amWhoops! Forgot link!

    I read and support all you say but, to go slightly O/T, this is fame indeed….

    JD available as a wallpaper for your iPhone no less!

    (I expect you knew already but were too shy to say)


  3. orkneylad says:2nd June 2010 at 3:08 pmThey’re in retreat James, keep it up. :-)
  4. yaosxx says:2nd June 2010 at 4:12 pmWell I hope all this “maintenance” at DT will be worth the trouble – it better be! I’m beginning to feel like a plane grounded during the volcano ash…
  5. John Carter says:2nd June 2010 at 5:31 pmThe BBC is beyond reason when it comes to this topic.
    It’s almost as if there has been some kind of mind control applied to a large chunk of the population including most of the people at the BBC.
    The most scary thing (for me) is that they will not, can not, must not contemplate any scenario other than complete and utter catastrophe.
    No matter what the evidence, public opinion or anything else, they just ignore it all. They are completely deluded but unaware of their delusion.
    Some very sinister people have planned and executed a brilliant deception and they have achieved amazing success.
    Quite how we reverse it with these zealots is another matter.
  6. Mack says:2nd June 2010 at 8:56 pmMaybe I can be resurrected when the blog comes back on line? Its a long story but I was blocked by wordpress and “died” Then I signed in as my “wife” and was just about to start an elaborate spoof when she got blocked [not in the biblical sense of course] and that was it. So later I was reading the DT and said “bugger me” see if I can get in again and there I was as leadkindlylight,the ghost of Mack.
    Too many trolls about so I just let the hare sit until now .That is about it,the spoof would have been fun but I just could not post at the time to carry it along.Best laid plans of mice and men
  7. Mack says:2nd June 2010 at 8:57 pmOooops wrong email addie
    Maybe I can be resurrected when the blog comes back on line? Its a long story but I was blocked by wordpress and “died” Then I signed in as my “wife” and was just about to start an elaborate spoof when she got blocked [not in the biblical sense of course] and that was it. So later I was reading the DT and said “bugger me” see if I can get in again and there I was as leadkindlylight,the ghost of Mack.
    Too many trolls about so I just let the hare sit until now .That is about it,the spoof would have been fun but I just could not post at the time to carry it along.Best laid plans of mice and men
  8. Russell says:2nd June 2010 at 9:18 pmBBC’s Richard Black seems to be dealing with slightly more realistic issues concerning air pollution. His article today on BBC News Frontpage – – gives AGW a mere passing mention before going on to his take on depletion of energy and food resources.

    Wonder how many environment journos are hedging their bets and looking to the future … now the AGW argument is effectively tattered in the public’s perception.

  9. Russell says:2nd June 2010 at 9:23 pm.. ps, and I noted the Reith Lecture this year started with an entirely unconvincing attempt to take stock of the pro- case for AGW before meandering into realms that were lost as I reached for the dial …
  10. crownarmourer says:2nd June 2010 at 9:46 pmYes looks like they are putting in the changes to the website today and are not waiting till Monday, although they are taking there sweet time about it, heck they should have had the changes ready to roll out bounce the servers and voila fewer trolls.
  11. crownarmourer says:2nd June 2010 at 9:58 pmNote to James D the problems we experienced on the blogs on the DT were caused by poor design of a persons ****ile allowing people to make changes that in hind sight were a bad idea you were not hacked per se. Took me a few hours to figure out what they had done as did Damocles and a few others. You may wish to not allow this to be posted just in case the fix did not work. Also apologies if we got a little carried away with our new finding we are a bunch of big kids at times when we get new toys to play with.
    I will remind you, you did impersonate Duckham once yourself.
  12. orkneylad says:2nd June 2010 at 10:31 pmRussell – It’s been very interesting observing the BBC galleon attempting to change tack as the wind turns…’s a hulking, creaking vessel that doesn’t exactly turn on a sixpence…..taking on far too much water too…..glad I’m not chained to its oars.
  13. Jesper says:2nd June 2010 at 11:39 pmWow, I just realized that Moonboy’s “Climate Change sceptic blog alerts‏” are pretty useful. I’ve apparently been missing some of you posts, James, and that’s just a shame. Btw, thanks for all the great work you’re putting in here and on your Telegraph blog. Cheers
  14. Mack says:3rd June 2010 at 8:01 amI wonder if the journos mentioned by Russell are taking a cue from James and Christopher Booker? Their various blogs and commentaries and those from some of our excellent American pals have opened a lot of eyes and surely even those at the BBC can see the turning tide of opinion. Lean at the DT does no good whatsoever and in fact is counter-productive,perhaps the Editors at the DT will note this and pension him off. I believe that the percentage of folks who still believe in AGW is down to 25-26% in the UK and just a bit above that in the USA?
  15. yaosxx says:3rd June 2010 at 8:34 amMack – We guessed as much all along! It was only Walt who was about to go out and buy a wreath…until he came to his senses!
  16. Mack says:3rd June 2010 at 8:54 amyaosxx, it was bloody frustrating not being able to post and I feared that if I tried too many times to sign up that my IP would be blocked.But it looks now as if all will be be managed [note I did not say controlled !! ] much better and all will be hunky dory. I hope Walt hangs on to the wreath,I can see a time soon when moonbat,jones,mann and others jump hand in hand from somewhere high. Well,maybe more a push by JD than a jump.
  17. yaosxx says:3rd June 2010 at 9:19 amMack – We were just getting into the flow of things too yesterday. That grauniad link Scud posted was hilarious – and there were so many sceptical posts on it – I think they’ve given up at cif – if they started deleting all the sceptic posts they’d be nothing on the page!
  18. Mack says:3rd June 2010 at 10:07 amI had a look at that link yaosxx,seldom go to that site or to the BBC these days, and what a turn up for the bookies! They even allowed mention of the dreaded Delingpole. Still a lot of bitter and twisted comment there but that is normal on the grauniad .The character ‘Darling’ in Blackadder is a typical Gardiner inmate except for the wimmin who all have moustaches,sad bunch all of ‘em. James is really getting under their skin and I bet that he is in line for lots of abuse from that quarter, well lots more abuse really :)
  19. yaosxx says:3rd June 2010 at 11:14 amMack – James getting under their skin?? – Sounds good to me! LOL You know this maintenance better be good! It’s a bit like cold turkey at the moment :)
  20. yaosxx says:3rd June 2010 at 11:16 amNow that’s strange – the time on that post is one hour behind…? Oi James – your clocks are funny!
  21. yaosxx says:3rd June 2010 at 11:34 amAnd there’s a typo in the title of your new DT blog!
  22. Manuel says:3rd June 2010 at 1:11 pmHere’s another moral dilemma:
    Not as important as the “could I really vote for Zac Goldsmith?” one (I did), but still:

    There’s a rock festival at the weekend in Cheltenham which features the Happy Mondays and the Lightning Seeds, amongst other things.

    However, the web site talks about one of the features being “Healing Gardens”, aromatherapists, and has a whole spiel from Friends of the Earth on the website about how meat and dairy farms are killing the earth (man). They even have a go at soy farms; just what DO these people eat then?

    So is it worth seeing some fading glories from these bands or is the whole hippy thing going to just be too much to take? I’m torn with indecision.

  23. Mack says:3rd June 2010 at 1:25 pmManuel, I have heard tell that hippies like to have some cascara mixed into their fruit juice,green tea or whatever it is they are drinking.I doubt if they are into good coffee or ale so I can only surmise that they have to drink something sometime so maybe you could be a good buddy to them and dose the drink?
  24. Neil Craig says:3rd June 2010 at 1:33 pmYou start with imposing fascism on foreigners & if that works then there is no logical defence against imposing it at home.

    This is the same BBC which has for 20 years told every conceivable lie about the KLA, Bosnian Moslem & Croatian Nazis (eg the the Bosnian leader was a “moderate Moslem committed to a multicultural Bosnia when they knew he was a WW2 Nazi who had publicly stated his intention of henocide for all non-Moslem communites, ie the majority of the population). This same BBC has deliberately censored any mention of the still ongoing dissections of Serbs, while still alive, by our KLA employees in Kosovo. This puts them on a much lower ethical level than the German media which censored Auschwitz (at least the germans had the excuse of wartine censorship).

  25. Russell says:4th June 2010 at 5:39 pmOrkney Lad, my ex-girlfriends brother is high up at the Met Office. For years he thought global waring was b*ll*x and happily said so. Then one day about six or seven years ago he did a total u-turn. Even at the time, when I thought AGW was a reality (and I was still eating the fake astro-turf many sheep still graze on) it occured to me that there must have been a memo from on high …
  26. Jim King says:8th June 2010 at 8:03 pmOh, global warming is real. I wouldn’t expect a pansy Englishman to understand, as the rat-faced scrawny, pencil-necked Delingpole has probably never be out of his rain-drenched little podunk has-been island home. Go north. Go to the arctic circle. See. Try that instead of just sitting around scratchy your pasty flabby English asses.

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